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On the Thrive Like a Mother podcast, I'll share the resources and tools I use on the daily to cultivate a healthy mindset break the wheel of survival. Here we're about honesty and transparency. Because at the root of it all, my purpose in creating this podcast is so that you know you are never alone in your journey.
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Thrive Like a Mother Podcast
Your nervous system is sending you messages - Are you listening? with Audrey Rose
Have you ever caught yourself doom scrolling for hours, sitting in your car outside Target because you "need a moment," or neglecting your own needs while perfectly maintaining everyone else's schedules? Your nervous system is desperately trying to tell you something.
In today's conversation, registered nurse, holistic life coach and somatic healer Audrey Rose helps us dive deep into understanding nervous system dysregulation – what it looks like, why it happens, and most importantly, how to address it before reaching complete burnout. Audrey vulnerably shares her own journey of working through the pandemic as a nurse until her body hit what she calls "functional freeze" – a state where you appear fine on the outside but are completely shut down internally.
You'll discover how your autonomic nervous system responds to perceived threats and why our modern world keeps us constantly cycling through stress responses without proper resolution. The most powerful revelation? This isn't a problem with you – it's your body's natural protective mechanism responding to an overwhelming environment.
Audrey guides us through three evidence-based practices that can immediately begin shifting your nervous system back toward regulation: specific breathing techniques, EFT tapping, and sound healing. These practices don't require hours of your time but can dramatically increase your capacity to handle stress while maintaining your natural ambition and drive.
For the high-achieving woman who feels she doesn't have time for these practices, Audrey offers a perspective-shifting rubber band analogy that explains why regulation isn't optional – it's essential for preventing the complete collapse that eventually comes from chronic stress. Your nervous system needs to both activate and recover, and these practices ensure you maintain that crucial flexibility.
Ready to reclaim your bandwidth while keeping your ambition intact? Then visit helloaudreyrose.com/sisterhood for a free two-week trial of Audrey's Rise Sisterhood. There you'll find ongoing support for your nervous system regulation journey. Your future self will thank you.
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Hey, love, I'm Ebony and welcome to Thrive Like a Mother On this podcast. We're scared for our truth, but that fear is what fuels us to truly live in it. You're in the right place if you feel like you're stuck in survivor mode and you're ready to step into who you were truly meant to be. I'll share resources and tools I use daily to help you in your journey towards a healthier mindset and to break the wheel of survival. The journey may not be easy, but you won't have to face it alone. I'm a mama of three, healing day by day from past trauma, and I'm on a mission to build a life I've always dreamed of but never thought was possible. So, love, if you're ready to believe in what's possible, let's link arms and thrive together.
Speaker 1:Hey, loves, welcome to another episode of the Thrive Like a Mother podcast and, as you can see, we have a very special guest on today. Her name is Audrey Rose. First of all, y'all this woman so powerful. She's a registered nurse, holistic life coach and somatic healer. She's also the founder of the Rise Sisterhood and the host of a top-ranked podcast, ready to Rise. And y'all, audrey, she's all about helping high-achieving women learn how to regulate their nervous systems and reconnect with their true happiness without losing the ambition.
Speaker 1:And that has not said enough to you already Like why we need her on the podcast today, why you need to listen in you know, get cozy and just get ready, because she's about to pour so much wisdom into y'all Gosh, I literally cannot wait, I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much. It's so cool. I know I love this. I'm like now you've been on my podcast, I'm on yours. This is so fun.
Speaker 1:Yes, I love it. I love it and I know. Today we're talking all about nervous system regulation, which I know. First of all, I have a lot of women listening and I have a lot of mamas.
Speaker 1:And when I tell you, it is difficult for us to learn how to regulate our nervous systems, especially after having children and, you know, becoming something new. So I am, so I'm just grateful for you today, because we need all of the tips, all of the learnings, just everything. All of the tips, all of the learnings, just everything. So I want you to just share a little bit about yourself, like what season of life you're currently in, what you're working on. Share all of that.
Speaker 2:Right now I'm like you know that question. You're always like where do I want to start? So I am a registered nurse and that's really how I got into this was I had probably eight or almost nine years ago now I had my whole healing journey and that's you know what ended up leading me to starting the podcast and all that you know. And we met like at the events and all of those things and I was like heavy into the personal development and like the mind stuff, like the mindset stuff and and then it's like the journey was happening and I was doing really good and I had like felt like I had really found myself again. I was like just thriving, right and and then out of nowhere, just like everybody has a pandemic story, the pandemic hit and it was like it knocked me off my feet, like I really just working as a nurse during that time just I mean overwhelmed me and I didn't even know it. At the time. I thought like I'm good, I'm going to work all this overtime. At the time it was just me and my dog, you know, here, and so I had nothing to worry about. I was like as long as she's fed and here, and so I had nothing to worry about. I was like, as long as she's fed and gets out, we're good. I can work my butt off, because there were so many other nurses who couldn't. They had young kids at home or elderly parents they were taking care of and it was a really scary time and so I was like it's just me, I'll just be really careful and I'll isolate at home and work. And I remember my mom telling me she's like you are going to burn out and I was like no, no, no, I'm not, I'm fine, I'm going to be fine. Yeah, sure enough.
Speaker 2:Like three years into the pandemic, when it started to slow down a little bit, I hit a huge burnout. I mean I ended up. So I was basically in charge of a unit that was all about COVID and and that was a lot I was like one of the main lead nurses. Yeah, it was intense. I mean I was constantly talking to like the doctors about things and as things change, it was like I just kind of kept up with everything because I was there so much. I was on the phone with, like our what do you call it? It's called CDPH for short. It's like the public health of California here and just to like learn the things you know for our specific unit and there was just so much happening, right. So eventually, when that unit closed down and then we only had a little bit of cases of that you know left and it kind of went back to normal, like like it went throughout the hospital, that kind of thing I took a three month sabbatical and I was like something is wrong with me, something is super wrong, and it was obviously the grief and all of that stuff.
Speaker 2:There was a lot to think about and you know, a lot to process, but my nervous system was shot. I mean, I couldn't even handle the regular things of life at that point because I was so shot. Like the bills were piling up, the you know whatever, like you know how you have all the things you got to do. You got to make appointments for this and you got to get the oil changed on the car, whatever, right, all of that was building up and I couldn't do any of it.
Speaker 2:So at first I just thought, you know, okay, it's because I need to work out and it's because I need to push harder, like everybody. We all think that right, it's because I'm so bad, like I need to do more. I'm just such a bad person and I didn't know that I was actually in. It's basically just nervous system dysregulation and it was very specifically called functional freeze, where you can function and you can go to work and you can do certain things and you can show up and on the outside you look fine. People aren't going to notice, like at the grocery store. You're cool, you still look like you're crushing life, but on the inside you are so completely shut down You're neglecting yourself. You're just not. Most days I wasn't even getting off the couch, I was canceling plans yeah.
Speaker 2:I was just doom scrolling on my phone and then you look up and you're like wait, how did it get dark already? Yeah, what happened, gosh.
Speaker 2:so that is my story and it just, you know it ended up leading me to like figuring out how do I lean in to learning about the nervous system, like as a nurse, you already know like we, you know I'm trained in so much already, but I'm not trained in the more holistic tools, right? Because by the time they come to me in the hospital people are really sick. So I was like, let me just lean into the nervous system. It's clearly a nervous system problem. I can tell, like I know you know about the vagus nerve and I know about these different symptoms and the different parts of our nervous system. So, really leaning in to nervous system regulation, and so yeah, here I am today teaching it.
Speaker 1:Amazing, and I want to jump right into that because that I mean that's perfect. I know there's a lot of women listening into this right now that they've maybe heard the term nervous system at some point in their life but they don't know, like, what that means. Can you give like some examples of how that can show up in your body, knowing that you're like you're, dysregulated? I think that's what you said.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so dysregulation. So let me just I'll give kind of like the short backstory, because I'm one of those people who I'm like I want to know a little bit of why.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So we have a bunch of you know there's different parts of the nervous system. Of course it's like our brain, it's our spinal cord, but out on the like, extremities, like out, you know, to our hands, to our toes, all of that it's like called the peripheral nervous system and there's part of it called the autonomic, which really just automatically does our responses for fight or flight, which we've all heard of. Or there's the other part of it called rest and digest, which is the parasympathetic nervous system, and that's when you feel fully relaxed. When you're in that state You're like you can watch a movie on the couch and you're not stressed about what's happening everywhere else. You're fully able to relax.
Speaker 2:But that flip side, that fight or flight response, it's really like a primal response that we have in our brain to keep us safe, like from the caveman days, when there's a tiger and it sends all of that cortisol and all the the other hormones and the whole stress response so that we can outrun the tiger, get food, you know, survive, really like puts us into like the full-on survival mode to keep us safe. Nowadays we're not running from tigers, right where's the danger?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so, but the danger is like our body hasn't evolved as quickly as our world around us. So we sense danger almost everywhere. Driving in a car and you see the car coming to a stop sign and you're like, are they going to stop? And even though we know we like on the outside, we know like we're good, our brain, our primal part of our brain, is just like. Like we're good, our brain, our primal part of our brain, is just like whoa, that's a huge danger. Or like not another email. Or like why is your boss calling you? That's so scary, that feeling you know. Or like or with kids, like I can only imagine, like all of the amounts of things that your brain is constantly scanning for threats all the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So it adds up like because every time that your brain thinks that there's a little bit of you know if something that we can say is a threat, it sends you into a little bit of fight or flight or it starts that stress response. Even if you don't feel like it, it's doing this for you and so over time those all add up and every time that we get into these chronic stress and then we don't complete, there's like a whole I won't go into it because it's way too long, but there's a whole stress response that happens in your body and it needs to be completed live in that state and then it just builds up over time. So that's when it starts to look like you know the symptoms of dysregulation. That can be different for everybody, but it's really like you don't feel like yourself is probably like the biggest you know first sign. But then it goes into.
Speaker 2:Things really start to pile up because we can't handle them. We can't keep up with things we used to be able to keep up with. You're not making. You might still be making, like appointments for the kids or you know, cooking dinner for them, but you'll notice that for you you're not. You stop working out. You stop, you know, paying attention to yourself, you might not be making appointments for you. You're trying to like cut a lot of corners in life because you're so overwhelmed.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:For me and, I think, a lot of the women that I see, it's very much about the doom scrolling. Lately that's been a huge topic coming up. We're so overwhelmed that it's just a really easy escape and we sit, disassociate. You can disassociate in other ways, like sitting in your car. You're at Target, you're like I can't even go in or I can't go in the house yet, like I got to sit here for like 10 minutes and just do nothing. Yeah, so all it is is just your nervous system is so kind of overwhelmed that it's hitting that like that big, like red button, like the big shut off button.
Speaker 1:Hey, no, we cannot do anything else.
Speaker 2:It's like stop everything, I can't handle any more input, and it kind of just shuts it down for you, and that's why you might not even notice, like you can maybe pick your phone up, and then a lot of times, even for me, it's just like I just grab Instagram and I'm, you know an hour later like wait, why am I still looking at this?
Speaker 1:And so, yeah, what did I come on here for?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so that's like what you know. What ends up happening is just like our body just kind of does it for us.
Speaker 1:That is scary too. And yeah, not noticing You're like I'm fine, but your body? Is clearly giving you signs that we're not. So let's talk about someone who maybe listening to this right now. They're like oh my gosh, audrey, that's me. They're like I'm doing the doom scrolling. I'm sitting in my car, you know, I'm needing to have the moments. What can they start with when they are sitting in those moments? What is an alternate option for them to start to regulate themselves again?
Speaker 2:so the first thing I want to say and I know that, like chat GPT keeps putting this on everybody's stuff on Instagram, so I know I'm a broken record because I see everyone talking about this, but you're not broken. Like everybody has to know, like you are not broken, because we, as women, will go right into beating ourselves up. So just, I think that's like number one is, when you catch that, just know like this is so natural in today's world to get overwhelmed, and it's cool, you can still handle, and that's the other thing is as high achieving women. It's like even worse, because we're used to like we do all the things, yeah, and so then all of a sudden you're like wait, why can't I handle everything? Yeah, and we're used to being that woman. And so then it's like almost embarrassing on the inside, on the very deep inside Might not even like tell your husband right, You're like I don't know what's going on, but I feel like doing absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1:I feel like doing absolutely nothing.
Speaker 2:Yep. And then it's like I don't want anybody to know about this, but it's okay, like it really is okay. And the thing with quick plug, like the thing with a nervous system, regulation is, once you're coming from a more regulated place, you can do all the things because you're going to have the bandwidth Right. So like that's why I like always tell women I'm like I'm not going to make you slow down and I'm not going to tell you to take more off your plate. You can do it, but we just got to regulate. So to the woman who's just caught herself, that's the first thing. The second thing is take a breath. And I know that's the annoying response because it's like what do you mean? Just stand here and just take a breath. But really that rest and digest.
Speaker 2:That other side of that fight or flight, stress response, the other side of that is really controlled by this huge nerve in our body. It's massive. I'm like getting so lit up because it's just really cool and it's called the vagus nerve and, yes, we can actually stimulate that nerve. It runs right through our diaphragm and it's just the cool because I've like seen it. So I'm like lighting up because, like, as gross as that is. I won't go into details, but like I've seen all of this and it's huge and our diaphragm can like rub it and like stimulate it with breath. It's so cool, yeah, so like there's a few tools that I use that are like the. The best which we can get into in a minute, but that is the first.
Speaker 1:One is like take some deep breaths, box bleeding, if you can yes, I, my goodness, I just shared that and cook like a mother because you know, it's so important yeah, it's important to just know, like when all the things, even if you're sitting in the kitchen and you're like this is too much, I don't want to do anything else Like, just take a breath, take a moment.
Speaker 2:Take a moment and you'll reset. You know Exactly.
Speaker 1:All right. So let's get into we talked about box breathing. Let's get into some more practices that they can start implementing, like today, right now, even if you're feeling it.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I have three that I teach, like inside the rise sisterhood and just in general. Like I have three that I stick to because there are tons of tools out there. The thing is you can go to YouTube and you can get so many of them for free nowadays, but there are certain tools that are really proven that, like you know, they have gone through some studies and it's really cool, like places like Harvard and there's a couple other like universities who have done studies and so we do have research that certain tools are really helpful. So breathing is absolutely a huge one. Like I was saying, it'll shift you into that state. It's really cool because it can directly like affect that. You know nerve and there's tons of different types of breathing and I won't get into it now, but, yeah, do your simple box breathing and then in the sisterhood, every single month, I lead them through a whole breath work practice so that we can like get into it and we do a couple of different ones.
Speaker 2:Another really cool tool that I love is EFT tapping, which I'm sure I feel like people have heard about it but haven't really done it yet. Yes, Because I think that we tend to think like, how is this like just tapping on different? How does it help, you know, and especially as like a high, like an analytical woman, we're just kind of like wait, what I don't know. It feels kind of woo. It's like does this work? But it's called emotional freedom technique and it's here to kind of like help you get rid of a lot of the blocks, Like in ancient Chinese medicine. They think that you know, there's these different meridians, different kind of bundles, and our energy can get stuck in them, and so that's why they do acupuncture to like move the energy through, and so that you know they've done that for I mean thousands and thousands of years. But now there's new kind of way is with even less tools without needles, just tapping on the places, and it's so cool.
Speaker 2:They have done studies on this and it's showing that I forget the timeframe, but it lowers your cortisol like basically immediately. Like it literally reduces your cortisol so quick. So when you feel yourself stressed out, that's another really good one is just tapping and there's a whole sequence and there's you know, you do affirmations as you tap on the spots. There's a whole way that it happens. You know we say certain kind of negative things and we bring out the emotion and then move into the positive. So, um, when you're first learning, you probably do want to do it with somebody, but you can get to that point where you can just do it on your own, like in the like at the traffic light. You're just like, you know yeah, just take a second.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just like, okay, what you see? Yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 2:And then the third thing that I am obsessed with save the best for last is sound healing. And sound healing used like way back when on my first journey, and now I'm certified in sound healing and it's just like God, I love it so much. It just can I don't know. It's like as soon as you start to hear the bulls, you know like sing, if you will it just like relaxes you immediately and the and I like I was like looking it up. I'm like what are the studies on this Cause?
Speaker 2:like I'm I'm a little bit of a science girly I'm like what is happening and really it's helping your brainwaves, just because of the sound, like the sound is giving you kind of like nature's rhythm, I guess you know, and so the sound can go right in and get you into a meditative brainwave state. So there's a couple of different brainwaves, I won't go into it, but but yeah, so it can like literally mimic those brainwaves and you will like mirror that and so it brings you into this meditative state without and the coolest thing is is like this is the somatic work, because it's our body work, right. Yes, For so long, as a woman who's like analytical and overthinking all of that, I was like give me the book to heal this, I will read it and I'll do all the things. Yeah, and I think what's really cool is like I noticed for me that that wasn't working right, Like the books weren't helping, and I think what's really cool is like I noticed for me just show up to a sound bath and let the
Speaker 2:vibrations do their thing, or you just follow along with a breathwork instructor and you just, like you know, do the breathwork. And so I'm just like truly obsessed with, you know, teaching these now and then just doing them myself. It's so funny. The last I think it was last month in the sisterhood I became obsessed with the breathwork that I did for them. Everything comes in videos. It's like a Netflix, you know. It's like a Netflix for your nervous system, and so, anyways, like I literally rewatched that video so many times, like almost every day for myself, and I was like I'm the one that like facilitated this, but it is so good. I like we can't get enough. It is quick, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, especially when you think of, like you know, I think when I first started kind of my healing practice, the first thing I went to was meditation and it was really difficult for me to get into it. And then I got into. I realized that any type of like sound healing worked better for me because, you know, I could just be doing listen to the ocean, or bowls, or like whatever how was your first sound healing?
Speaker 2:I'm really curious. I would love to hear because, were you like thinking or trying to like what am I supposed to be doing, or having any of those kind of thoughts?
Speaker 1:I think at the beginning I was like, okay, am I supposed to be doing anything right here? But then at some point, like the sound frequencies, they just they hit you and you just you know, you don't have to think anymore, you don't have to think about the to-do list you don't have to think about the appointments, you just be for a second and it's perfect.
Speaker 2:yeah, I had the same thing. So I was like really curious about your experience, like, yes, goodness.
Speaker 1:Okay, so let's. Let's talk to the mama who we talked about, the mama who maybe recognizes that she's in this right now. What about the mama who feels like she's too far gone? Regulation is like one of those things that she doesn't have time for. I know we're out there.
Speaker 2:Let's talk to that mama. All right you, I forget the quote. I'll have to look this up and like, paste it on my laptop. There's a quote by why am I blanking? You know, Kimora Lee Simmons, who, like, had a clothing line. It's her husband's name, richard right.
Speaker 1:Yes, uh-huh, okay, yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, now I'm like, oh my gosh, how embarrassing.
Speaker 2:But anyways, he is super into meditation, super, super into meditation, which I never knew, and I had watched this documentary and he was like part, you know, he was in it for like a minute and he said he was just like, if you think that you don't have time to you know, meditate was his thing, but to any of these tools, that means you need to take twice as long out of your day to do the thing, to do this practice, because when we think we don't have time for this is because we are so overwhelmed, there's so much going on.
Speaker 2:What happens is, if you've ever had one of those days where there's so much going on but it's pulling you in a bunch of different directions, right, you might have a few kids, you might be, you know, and you it's like hard because you have to switch back and forth between tasks quickly and we think we're really good at it, and we are because we're women, so like, let's be honest, but it still is really hard to shift and we're getting our attention pulled in many directions when you start your day, especially if you start your day, but at any point of the day, start your day with like a regulation practice, and it can be short.
Speaker 2:That's going to help you to be able to have like the bandwidth really to go in these different to you know, do the different things your nervous system. Like this is a new analogy. I've never spoken about it like this before, but it's almost, I want to say, like a rubber band even. Right, we're supposed to be able to stretch open to the stressful situation. That's regulation. You know, we want to be able to get activated, get stressed, and then we want to come back and relax, and so throughout the day that's happening so many times to us, right?
Speaker 2:To keep it honed, to keep, like that rubber band, from snapping. That's your nervous system regulation practices, your breath work, your sound, healing, all of that. So do those things so that you can keep stretching. You know, for the woman who's like I'm like way too far gone, girl, you better sit down right now. Yes, yeah, because what happens is then, if we don't practice this and if we don't like take the time now, we will end up in that functional freeze state like I experienced, where then you're sitting on the couch for three months and you can't do anything. And I don't want you to get to that place like that's what we're preventing here exactly, oh so powerful.
Speaker 1:I love that rubber band analogy because yeah, that makes sense to me. Yeah, we we do stretch a lot like we just balance. We're balancing through.
Speaker 2:You know work. We're balancing kids.
Speaker 1:We're bouncing all the you know if you're an entrepreneur too. We're bouncing all the you know if you're an entrepreneur too. Yeah, there's so much.
Speaker 2:And the thing is like again, like to reiterate, like I want to do all those things and I know you do too Like it's, like I find so much like power might not be the right word, but just even satisfaction with like I want to do all this, but we have to have the capacity.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, exactly, ok. So I want to do something fun before we close. So I I don't know if everyone knows this about me, but I love music, I love music so I want to hear what your favorite song is right now, the one that's on repeat, that someone can listen to today.
Speaker 2:Hold on let me pull up. This song is my head. Let me make sure it's the right title. Oh, my gosh, dude, I feel like you're such a channel because, as I'm talking to you, I'm just like getting all these downloads. Like what is happening? Is it called? I Am here. Yeah, I Was here, by Beyonce. Oh, I love that song. I haven't even listened to it for a little while, but this is what's coming through.
Speaker 1:I haven't even listened to it for a little while, but this is what's coming through. Yes, that's the season.
Speaker 2:I feel like it's that song too. That's like let me have a good cry in the past and so even that is like regulate your nervous system. But I mean truly like just take care of you. Like you're the person that you're gonna live and die with, you're the person that you have the longest relationship in your life with and I'm like getting emotional as I say that but like you matter so much more than you know, and so we have to take care of ourselves so that we don't like I just don't want you to go through life and get super burned out and not even enjoy your life.
Speaker 1:Like yeah, we have to keep going, keep achieving, but still you have to take care of yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, enjoying it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yes, exactly, goodness. All right, audrey. How can our listeners connect or work with you? I know you talked about the Rise Sisterhood. Tell us all the things.
Speaker 2:I would love to give everybody like a two-week trial to the Rise Sisterhood, like because come in, you know, do the like. Everything's there in a portal and you can also join, like the live calls, of course, so, but we can put in the show notes, but it's just hello, audrey Rose dot com slash sisterhood and right there, when you sign up, you get the first two weeks for free, so, and you can always go in and cancel if you need to, but the two weeks are right there for free. And then, of course, instagram Hello, audrey Rose, I'm right there, so just come and chat. I always love. If you like, need advice, or if you're like, how do I do that thing, come chat, like I got you.
Speaker 1:Yes, audrey is, and I can attest to that. She always has my back, always. Well, I hope that every single woman listening in today definitely feels a little bit more seen, a little bit more equipped with all that Audrey has just shared with us, at least to, even after you finish listening to this, go and implement one of those practices, because I promise you, like we all need to be doing some type of nervous system regulation every single day. Every single day, and y'all take a little bit more time to slow down so that you can continue to show up. But y'all take a little bit more time to slow down so that you can continue to show up. But y'all, I will see you on the next episode. Thank you, audrey. Thank you so much for listening. Love. If anything in today's episode resonated with you, share it with your bestie or share it on social media and tag me so we can chat about it, as always, sending you light and love, and remember you are worthy, you are enough and you deserve to thrive.
